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Friday, September 18, 2009

PeopleTools 8.50 Installation

Just got my first login on a local PeopleTools 8.50 installation. The installation was great - kudos to the PeopleTools development team.

Things worked perfectly after finally getting it downloaded (I get the feeling that there were a lot of downloads from Oracle's site today :-). Here are some quick random observations.
  • The installers not only worked well, but they look a lot nicer. They also look a lot more consistent across the entire install (Tuxedo, WebLogic, PeopleTools).
  • I was caught off guard for a second when the Tuxedo installer asked for "Oracle Home" instead of "BEA Home" :-)
  • The WebLogic and PeopleTools installers both prompt you to subscribe to Oracle Security Alerts and guilt you a little bit when you turn them down. I forget the exact wording, but something to the effect of "failure to keep on security alerts makes you a bad person" :-) This is a Good Thing ; encouraging/shaming people into keeping up on current security threats will have an overall net positive effect.
  • PeopleTools installer is now smart enough to understand that installing from CD copies on the filesystem is common. So if you unzip everything with Disk1, Disk2, and Disk3 all in the same directory the installer continues along. Of course I was already installing from Disk1 before Disk2 had finished downloading so I didn't get the immediate benefit...
  • I did minimal installs for Tuxedo and WebLogic. Those took about 1GB of disk space.
  • I did the full install of PeopleTools (multi-language, SDK, etc.). That took about 5.5GB of disk space.
  • Nothing prompted me about the new separation of binaries vs log files in PSHOME. When I created a domain in psadmin though it was automatically created under a subdirectory of the user account that I was logged in with; PSHOME didn't get touched.
  • After logging in and clicking around through the environment I noticed that things just felt snappier. I haven't done any extensive testing on this yet, but even places that aren't impacted by the new Ajax functionality seemed to load quicker (portal home page, component loading, etc.).
  • No more "Processing" image blinking when server trips happen :-) Now it's a very Web 2.0-ish looking spinner.
There's a whole lot more to write about, but overall first impressions are that this is a top notch release. If you're trying to avoid upgrading for some reason, then you'd better keep your users away from playing with this because the reality matches the hype.

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27Comments:

At 3:04 PM, September 21, 2009, Anonymous Paco Aubrejuan said...

Thanks for the post Chris. Our team has been working very hard on PeopleTools 8.5 and is happy to see the excitment it is causing in our partner and customer base. Glad to hear that your initial install went well and that you're already seeing many of the results of the PeopleTools team's work. We're looking forward to a great year for PeopleSoft!

Paco Aubrejuan
VP & GM, PeopleSoft Enterprise

 
At 12:37 AM, September 22, 2009, Blogger Jim Marion said...

Hi Chris,

I've been using PT 8.50 this past week and noticed that it seems significantly faster as well. I've changed hardware, virtualization, and PeopleTools, so it is hard to pinpoint which made PeopleSoft faster, but my experience is that PT 8.50 is lightning fast.

 
At 1:03 PM, September 23, 2009, Anonymous Nicolas Gasparotto said...

Chris,
Yes, some slight differences during install which make life easier, and also on Linux, env variables TUXDIR (to be able to manage a domain) and PS_CFG_HOME to create domain like old-fashion instead of under the user account home folder. It needs to read carefully the install doc.

Nicolas.

 
At 1:23 PM, September 24, 2009, Blogger jsevier said...

Anyone do an install on a WinXP Pro client? I started up the installer, made all the appropriate selections, and it just froze after showing one block into the progress bar. Does this require a 64-bit client?

 
At 1:23 PM, September 24, 2009, Blogger jsevier said...

Anyone do an install on a WinXP Pro client? I started up the installer, made all the appropriate selections, and it just froze after showing one block into the progress bar. Does this require a 64-bit client?

 
At 1:25 PM, September 25, 2009, Anonymous Michael Finch (michael.finch@co.lane.or.us) said...

Is there a change assistant template out there somewhere for this to upgrade a demo database from?? We can't seem to find one and running the scripts through the instructions manually with datamover seems so primitive..

 
At 8:41 PM, September 26, 2009, Blogger Nagaraj Nagavarpu said...

I installed Tools, HR 9.1 application, Oracle Weblogic and Tuxedo 10gR3. I ran the below sql files too.
utlspace.sql sys as sysdba
dbowner.sql sys as sysdba
paddl.sql sys as sysdba
psroles.sql system
psadmin.sql system
connect.sql system

But after this when I try to login to datamover in bootstrap mode, I get an error. I have no clue where I am going wrong.

"Missing or invalid version of SQL library PSORA (200,0)"

 
At 12:17 PM, September 27, 2009, Blogger Nagaraj Nagavarpu said...

Correction to my earlier post...please read paddl.sql as hcddl.sql in my earlier comment.

 
At 8:11 PM, September 27, 2009, Blogger Nagaraj Nagavarpu said...

I got it resolved. I was installing the Oracle 10g 64-bit which was causing this issue. After installing Oracle 10g 32-bit, it worked. Is Oracle 10g 64-bit is not certified by Oracle for PeopleTools 8.50

 
At 6:07 PM, October 06, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When installing 8.50 on Vista 64 bit Data Mover gives a 'File: SQL Access ManagerSQL error. Stmt #: 2 Error Position: 0 Return: 12154 - ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve the connect identifier specified' when pointing to the 64 bit Oracle install. When pointing to the 32bit Oracle home it throws some psora.dll error...

 
At 1:39 PM, October 07, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In simplest terms, none of the 8.50 client applications will run on Vista 64 bit! App Designer and Data Mover still require good old 32 bit Windows XP.

I was able to get 8.46 and 8.49 PIA to run on Vista 64 bit without any issues at all as well.

 
At 11:52 PM, October 08, 2009, Blogger Chris Heller said...

I was able to connect with App Designer and Data Mover from Vista 64 bit. What errors were you getting?

 
At 4:44 PM, October 09, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually the 11g 64bit database is on Vista 64, couldn't get 8.50 App Designer to connect from Vista 64bit install.
(see the 06-Oct-2009 post if you want to read the error details)

Previously... I've seen 8.49 PIA servers, but not App Servers or App Designer, running on Windows Vista 64 bit Home Edition (actually 8.46 as well)

As for Tools 8.50 so far I've only seen Data mover and App Designer running on Windows XP 32 bit, but I will have seen the Tools 8.50 and HCM 9.1 up and running soon....

 
At 2:33 AM, October 10, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PeopleTools patch 8.50.02 has been released the other day, you can download it at

ftp://ftp.peoplesoft.com/outgoing/ptools/85002/

 
At 11:42 AM, October 10, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like the waiting continues for a true 64 bit App Designer, Data Mover, Application Server and Tuxedo release for 8.50. Each of these produce connection errors when run from Vista 64 bit Home Premium edition with SP1.

When pointed to either 11g 64 bit server or 11g 32 bit client a ORA-12154 TNS error or a psora.dll error occurs with app designer and data mover.

When trying to run psadmin.exe you can configure the domain but it won't boot on Vista 64 bit because of the psora.dll error.

As with 8.46 and 8.49, version 8.50 PIA servers do run on Vista 64 bit Home Premium.

 
At 6:00 AM, October 15, 2009, Anonymous Ajay G said...

Finally I have HRMS 9.1/Tools 8.50 running on 64 bit Windows vista Home Edition.

** Used Oracle for Vista (downloaded 10203_vista_w2k8_x86_production_db from Oracle's website)
** Upgraded JRockit for windows (downloaded p8647911_2764_WINNT from metalink)
** PIA install gave errors when I tried to install under PS_HOME. Tried installing under C:\PiaHome and it worked!!
(Oracle recommends making PIA_HOME and PS_HOME the same for Peoplebooks search to work, but I could not get PIA installed under PS_HOME.So Peoplebooks search is not working currently for me, but for now I can live with it)


Overall, install went very smooth and I was impressed. I have never seen it go so smoothly in the past.
Processes run damn fast, saving pages is quick...

Great job by the folks at Oracle!!

Regards
AjayG

 
At 6:04 AM, October 18, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For my install I used 11g 64 bit as the database server on Vista Home 64 bit. I was able to get PIA instance configured and running HCM 9.1 with PeopleBooks on Vista 64 bit as well.
However App Designer, App Servers or Data Mover will not run on the Vista 64 bit and 11g 64 bit combination. I was unable to get the PeopleBooks search working either.

I also couldn't get the createviews.dms to run to completion. It took 20 hours, running on an XP 32 bit machine, and stopped responding with 1,700 views left to build.

 
At 8:59 PM, October 20, 2009, Anonymous corey cain said...

Hello,
I currently in the process of installing Peopletools 8.50 on Windows Server 2003 64-bit with Oracle 11g 64-bit for our company. When attempting to log into bootstrap mode (or any mode for that matter), I continually recieve the following error message:

'Missing or invalid version of SQL Library PSORA (200,0)'

After turning on trace, the only additional information I recive is 'router PSORA load failed'.

Has anyone come across this before and if so what did you do to resolve the issue? I am pretty much dead in the water at this point. Any information that you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Corey

 
At 3:12 AM, October 21, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still find the installation a little bit lacking. A few examples:

- The Oracle image used on the installation screens looks horrible
- When typing in the license key you don't automatically switch to the next text field
- When the installation of the PIA fails you get the message 'check the log at xxxx'; the log isn't in that directory
- When defining the location of the weblogic directory you have to select the directory where the folder resides in and not the folder itself

These are just minor things but it could've been better on these points.

 
At 11:15 AM, October 21, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corey see the October 6, 2009 post....it seems that Oracle database server 11g 64 bit is not supported by PeopleTools 8.50! The only 8.50 server that runs on Vista 64bit/11g 64bit is the PIA webserver.

....When installing 8.50 on Vista 64 bit Data Mover gives a 'File: SQL Access ManagerSQL error. Stmt #: 2 Error Position: 0 Return: 12154 - ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve the connect identifier specified' when pointing to the 64 bit Oracle install. When pointing to the 32bit Oracle home it throws some psora.dll error...

 
At 9:02 AM, November 11, 2009, Anonymous Michael Roobol said...

My "all 32 bit" installation of Tools 8.50 on Win XP Pro went very smoothly. I used SQL Server 2008 Developer as the DB and built a "sandbox" demo environment in HCM 9.0. I created a new "Oracle Home" (C:\Oracle) when installing Tuxedo 10gR3 and used the suggested C:\wls1031 directory during the install of Weblogic 11gR1. Tools 8.50 and 8.49 seem to peacefully co-exist on the same machine. The database configuration wizard worked flawlessly with SQL Server -- a welcome change from my experience with Tools 8.49 / HCM 9.0, which required a manual database install and modifications to many of the delivered SQL's and DMS's.

Many thanks to Chris Heller for his post.

 
At 1:15 AM, November 12, 2009, Blogger Alexis Gouraud said...

Hello Michael,

Did you see that Oracle provide some Virtual Machine Templates with Peopletools 8.50 / HCM ?
I would like to try them, but they are only for 64 bit CPU. Maybe that's why you created your own sandbox ?
It would be Great if you could provide your sandbox. (like a VM ?)
Do you think you could do that ? :) I would be very interested !

 
At 2:44 AM, December 14, 2009, Blogger The Seer said...

I was able to install and get working PeopleTools 8.49.19/CRM 9.0 and PeopleTools 8.50.02/HCM 9.1 on Vista (64 bit) Home Premium. The trick is to use Oracle 10g (32 bit) 10.2.0.3, and run all the installation programs as an Administrator using the XP Compatible property.

I was not able to get PeopleTools 8.46.05 working though, it seems to be an issue with Vista 64 bit however.

My guess is that 11g (32 bit) would work as well, the biggest issues I encountered were related to 8.49/8.50 not working with 11g (64 bit) on Vista (64 bit)

 
At 3:46 PM, January 19, 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're getting the "Missing or invalid version of SQL library PSORA (200,0)" error trying to connect with PT 8.50 DataMover. The server is Windows Server 2008 64-bit with Oracle 11g 64-bit client (database is on AIX). Is the 64-bit Oracle client the problem? If I understand this thread it should be 32-bit?

Thanks, John

 
At 12:40 PM, January 22, 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow-up to my post: I went ahead and uninstalled the 64-bit Oracle Client and installed the 32-bit version. We can now connect with DataMover - no error. Must use 32-bit version.

Thanks,
John

 
At 11:41 PM, January 31, 2010, Blogger vijaya said...

Hi ,

Can anyone help me with peoplebooks for PT8.5 and HRMS 9.1, search is not working for me in both the peoplebooks. Also can anyone help me in integrating both the people books.

Thanks!

 
At 9:03 PM, March 10, 2010, Blogger Anand Kumar Singh said...

Hello All,
I need to get database installed for this installation.
Can anybody suggest me the required size of file system and database settings for

Character Set -?
National Character Set -?
Tablespace Required -?
Users Required -?

 

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